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out power to most of the building. happening right now, two nasa astronauts walking outside the international space station. it is the second spacewalk of its kind in two weeks. these are live pictures from space. pretty cool, right? part of their job includes installing hgtv cameras that will be used to monitor activities outside the station. thank you so much for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour" with berman and bolduan starts right now. we will build a great wall along the southern border. and mexico will pay for the wall. >> president obama pena nieto disputes that, tweeting, i made it clear mexico will not pay for the wall. >> you don't build a coalition by insulting other friends. >> there will be no amnesty.
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>> say one thing one day and something totally different the next. >> maybe they'll be able to deport her. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone, i'm john berman. kate bolduan is off today. we begin with breaking news out of florida. a huge explosion rocking cape canaveral just a short time ago. it happened on the launch pad used by space x. we know they had a launch set for saturday. look at these pictures jump coming in. response teams are at the site. at this point, no injuries are reported. our reporters are gathering details and we'll get you the latest in just a moment. in the meantime, one battleground, two dueling rallies about to begin. any minute now, vice president joe biden will be campaigning for hillary clinton in warren, ohio. you can expect a sharp rebuke of
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donald trump's big immigration speech in mexico moment. we will take you there live. also donald trump, he is in ohio today. he's got a rally in wilmington, ohio, fresh off his immigration speech, fresh off his trip down south, way down south, to meet with mexican president enrique pena nieto. one thing trump and pena did not agree on, paying for the wall and whether that was even discussed. trump says it was not. the mexican president says it was. hours later in phoenix, donald trump reiterated that mexico will pay for it, 100% of it. he also outlined what hillary clinton called trump's darkest speech yet. a deportation task force. no legal status for undocumented immigrants unless they returned home and applied for re-entry. want to get to cnn's phil mattingly. he's live in wilmington where donald trump will hold a rally in just a short time. the trump campaign, how do they
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feel about how everything transpired yesterday? it was sort of everything. a lot going on. >> keep in mind, they're biased. but, look, they're very happy with yesterday. one trump adviser explained it like this, yesterday showed trump's ability to straddle both sides things. the democrat standing side by side with the leader of mexico and donald trump who can come back and talk policy and not move that far off what has been a permanent hard-line stance over the course of his campaign. we've heard what the clinton campaign has said in response. when you talk to trump officials, they felt a little bit like the trip, particularly on such short notice, was a bit a hail mary and they felt like they completed that pass, john. >> phil mattingly for us in wilmington. the issue in politics at this point in the campaign is about addition, did you add any voters. joining us now to examine that is anthony segora, military veteran, np ra firearms instructor. he supported donald trump beforehand but was keenly
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interested in what trump would have to say in this immigration speech. thanks so much for joining us right now. anthony, you listened to the speech. give me your general thoughts. >> i did, i thought it was very good. i agreed with probably 90% of it. there's a few issues i take exception to. i would actually like to talk to him about it. i thought the speech was very good. >> donald trump made clear there will be no legal status for any undocumented immigrants, any of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country, unless they leave. >> for those here illegally today, who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only. to return home and apply for re-entry like everybody else under the rules of the new legal
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immigration system. there will be no amnesty. >> now, i understand you support some kind of legal status for some of the undocumented immigrants here. so how do you respond to that? >> i do, yes, well, my wife is a mexican immigrant who came here illegally and now she's a brand-new u.s. citizen, is going to vote for the first time. and, you know, we have a lot of friends. she workins a lot with the mexin community. well, more than just mexican, immigrants. and there's a lot of hard-working immigrants that are here, that have family here, their kids are here. and i think -- and donald trump has said this. he wants to look at some of this stuff, case by case basis. i think that needs to be looked at. i believe donald trump, once he becomes president, will actually look at that. >> well, he didn't say that. what he said was no legal status for any of them.
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so his current position is any one of them could be deported. joining us with a different perspective is the head of the texas federation of hispanic republicans. you were a "not sure yet" before this speech from donald trump. where are you now? >> well, you know, i was in the not sure and i was going to leave my -- the slate blank. but at this point, with what i heard last night, i can't support trump. i can't sell the product he's trying to give to the hispanic community. pretty much he's doubling down on the same losing strategy that has cost us three elections now. with the presidency. with mccain, with romney. romney's self-deportation. romney has admitted that was a mistake. so yeah, at this point i can't support what he's selling. i think he doubled down on a losing strategy. >> is that decisive at this point, nothing else he says can win you over? >> i can't support the removal of doca telling children who right now are going to school
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and can't be deported, i can't knock on their door as a republican and say, hey, vote for us, we're going to deport you. it just doesn't make sense. and also, you know, again there are hard-working people here who are allies, they're wealth creators. w. bush understood this and that's why he was able to win 40% of the hispanic vote. we're going back on that legacy. i heard the gentleman talk about how his wife was a legal immigrant. my parents were illegal immigrants. i'm proud of that. because they did what they had to do to give me a shot. now i just graduated law school. we have one of the largest manufacturing plants in texas. i say that with pride. trump should know of all people. you do what you have to do to make a dollar in this country. i feel the republican party is betraying that legacy. we're party of entra pra neural spirit. we're losing allies today. i want republicans to be sure
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when they hear this that they understand if we do lose why we lost. we're throwing away new mexico, nevada, colorado. we have such a huge opportunity. hillary is so vulnerable on immigration. we can really beat her up. and right now i don't have anything to say to win those hearts and minds. >> just to be clear, you are a republican, yes? >> i am republican. my first -- i ran a presidential campaign for alan keyes of all people. i'm hard-core conservative. i've run races in battleground states. gave the republican party its first ever hispanic state representative. i am as hard-core republican as you can get. look, at the end of the day, the party has to decide, are we going to follow the big tent compassionate conservative point of view or go with this divisive strategy? i hope we win. i really do. i hope hillary has some kind of meltdown because that's the only thing that can save us now. >> you say we hope we win but you don't want donald trump to
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win, that's what you're saying? >> no, what i'm saying is i can't advocate for him in the hispanic community. his strategy, he thinks he does not need the hispanic vote. unfortunately, i think the hispanic community is going to deliver that desire. trump's strategy is to win the -- historic number of caucasian votes. you know, that's the losing strategy. i really believe it's the best strategy from the beginning. he still has a few days. i hope he's listening to this. he can change his mind. but at this point, you're not going to win the hispanic vote. >> you think that speech last night again was a turning point? >> it was. it was. because, you know, a lot of people were watching. the build-up. the marketing of this event. when he visited with the president of mexico, i was getting text messages, i was getting phone calls like from people who have not voted republican in a while. they were asking me, wow, is he really going to do this. and i kept saying, look, let's wait for the speech.
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we did wait for the speech. and what he said unfortunately is the same old tired losing strategy since mccain and romney. at this point, the only thing we can hope for is for hillary to meltdown. >> donald trump says he did soften. he just said that this morning. let me read you what he said. they're softening in a very humane way. he talks about tee podeporting . we've got a lot of people in this country you can't have. those people will get out. then we're going to make a decision at a later date once everything is stabilized. there's quite a bit of softeninging. you're not convinced there's softening? >> absolutely not. three of my friends have resigned from the council. these were guys that were hard-core republicans. they resigned this morning. it's not softening. it's doubling down. he's going to remove doca. we have millions of children who can't be deported, are going to
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school, are working, they're contributing. now he's proposing taking that away and only addressing their situation until he does all these ten steps. we're talking about years. we're talking about leaving people in the shadows. we're talking about being deported any moment. so, you know, the hispanic community and those that care about immigration, they know what it adds up to. you can't spin it. i mean, it's simple. everybody knows what's going on here. unfortunately, these guys that are in this campaign that went with fair numbers you would say, it's the same old losing strategy. these guys have cost us three elections. i'm a republican. this is why, because we give away traditional battleground states. >> you've been listening about this, why he did not like donald trump's speech tonight. convincing? >> not for me. i believe that his speech was right on. we do have to have a path for legalization. but if it means that they have
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to leave, then they have to leave. we have to take back our country. that's what donald trump said last night. we need to take it back. we have so many criminals here. >> take it back from whom? >> take it back from the criminals. we need to stop the illegal immigration. we need to stop the drugs. you go to northern new mexico, northern new mexico is one of the hubs for overdoses of heroin. i don't know how else we're going to do it unless we build a wall and we have to stop the immigration. >> if he wants to take back our country, he can stop by digging up the bodies of american soldiers who were illegal immigrants who died in iraq and afghanistan for this country. you have people who have served this country. i heard lewandowski say some
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things about illegal immigrants. guys who have died. these are guys who have served our country. we have guys creating wealth for this country. at this point, we better change our rhetoric. if not, we're going to lose the presidency again. >> thank you so much for being with us. any minute now, vice president joe biden will hit the campaign trail. what will he say about donald trump's speech last night? my bet, he didn't like it. we'll bring you the remarks live. and then breaking news this morning. big explosion on the space x launch pad. this is at cape canaveral. response teams just arriving on site of the blast. we have details ahead. plus other breaking news, just moments ago, a brand-new forecast for the tropical storm heading to florida and perhaps the entire northeast. this is expected to become a hurricane very, very soon. we'll give you the new forecast next. hmmmmmm.....
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kind of like this look. i'm calling it the "name your price tool" phase. whatever. happening right now, you're looking at live pictures from warren, ohio. any minute now, vice president joe biden will take that stage. he's going to have a campaign speech on batehalf of hillary
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clinton. you can bet he'll respond to donald trump's immigration speech. last night. so much to discuss on that subject. a hardening, as some critics have said. did he soften his stance? donald trump himself just said this morning. let's discuss that issue more right now. joining us is angie kelly former senior adviser on immigration in the obama white house. angie, thanks so much for being with us. i want to play you, if i can, a key piece of sound that occurred at the end of donald trump's speech where he seemed to open the door to the possibility that some, perhaps many, undocumented immigrants in the country might be able to stay. let's listen. >> in several years, when we have accomplished all our enforcement and deportation goals and truly ended illegal immigration for good, including the construction of a great wall which we will have built in
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record time. and at a reasonable cost which you never hear from the government. and the establishment of our new lawful immigration system, then and only then will we be in a position to consider the appropriate disposition of those individuals who remain. >> now, this morning, donald trump himself called that a softening. do you see it that way? >> wow. no. i don't see it as a softening. i think he's setting up expectations that will never be met. he reminds me of a kid running for class president saying, you know, i'll extend recess and we won't have homework anymore. i don't think it's realistic we're going to have that kind of wall built immediately by mexico. it is terrifying, the prospect of deporting 11 million people. and it is -- it's also puzzling
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to me that somebody who wants to be in the oval office says that down the road i will work to solve what he has said is an issue that needs attention. so it's a remarkable lack of thoughtful policy, a lot of slogans, scary ones. not a lot of solutions. >> what he says is that the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country, that that's not the biggest issue when it comes to illegal immigration. he says he wants to deport the criminals first. he doesn't seem to say anymore that he's going to actively force out the noncriminals. is that how you see it? >> no, i think he doubled down on deportation. because he talked about a great expansion of deportation officers. he talked about having local police get involved. he talked about deporting dreamers. so it felt like on deportation from beginning to end.
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i was stunned he didn't deal with 11 million because that is, again an issue he has raised and need to be front and center in the debate, particularly when you've got, you know, 70-plus-percent of republican voters saying we support a path to citizenship. i think he is so outside the bounds of what people want to see in terms of solutions. and that he's just throwing red meat to a very small base. >> one of the things he brings up is the issue of sanctuary cities. he says president obama and hillary clinton support the existence of sanctuary cities. is that untrue? >> well, i think what both the president and what secretary clinton support is where law enforcement is on this issue, right, because they know best what works in their community to keep community safe. and we know that we have over 300 localities where they have said, look, we don't want to be seen as jumping in bed with i.c.e. agents. we want to be able to have trust in the community. anyone who has committed a crime, absolutely, we prosecute.
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if i.c.e. can put a detainer on that person, fine. but what they don't want to be in the position of is having people being afraid to report crimes, people being afraid to come forward, and feel as if that they themselves or the family members are going to be put in removal proceedings. and this is what police officers are saying. and i trust those guys more than i trust donald trump to keep us safe. >> angie kelly, thanks for being with us, appreciate your insight. >> thanks. >> want to talk more about this. joining us, our panel, allison stewart who worked for senator ted cruz. kayleigh mcnamy, trump supporter. mark preston, cnn commentator. maria cardona, democratic super donor, we keep saying that because it's an impressive title. allison stewart, i want to start with you. you know politics, particularly when you're 60-plus days before an election, is about addition,
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adding votes, gathering support. did the last 24 hours in the life of donald trump do that? >> no, it did not. look, his speech was very well received clearly by that audience. he stuck by his guns and some say doubled down when it comes to build the wall, saying mexico will pay for it, e verify, deporting criminal illegal aliens. issues that all of the republican challengers say that's not going to happen, that's not going to work. while your rhetoric is good, reality is it's not going to be implemented. he stuck with his guns, followed his gut and his heart. he clearly executed a policy they enjoy. however, he needs to expand to the broader electorate. he needs to appeal to the white college educated voters out there. this speech with the harsh tone on immigration is not expanding his appeal to the broad electorate. while he solidified a base he
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already had, all those people in that room were going to vote for him anyway. the need to appeal to a broader audience. there was no addition there. that's the concern. his ability to sell that to the broader audience and, in turn, if he wants this to work, he's got to sell congress on it. that's going to be the challenge in the days and weeks ahead. >> we heard from our guest a short time ago who workings s t elect republicans in texas and now he says he's a firm no. >> i understand artino's point and it's one that donald trump echoed. there are hard-working mexican-americans that we love and we respect their values. that includes many in the illegal immigrant community. what he missed i think is at the end of donald trump's speech, when you had him stand up there and name the name of their child. one mom said, my son would be here instead of his ashes if donald trump were president because he would not have allowed illegal immigrants into
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society, many of whom, some of whom, i should say, has committed crimes. the gao report showed there are 25,000 homicide arrests in the illegal immigrant community. that is astonishing number. my democratic counterpart says, they served their time, they're allowed to be back in society. that's not the case. we should not have to -- >> when it comes to deporting criminals, a lot of that is what is part of the president's policy. felons not families. >> he let out -- >> i understand that, and donald trump thinks the president should do more. he says he wants to deal with criminals in this country. we heard that. again, when you're talking about attracting new voters. >> i think there are a lot of new voters who looked in the eyes of the parents and empa thitzed with them. obama last year released 200 homicide arrestees. those parents are the victims of that policy. >> maria cardona, you heard what
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kayleigh said. i want you to respond to donald trump this morning who said there is a softening in his policy. the idea that once you secure the boborders, in his words, on you deal with the criminals, later on, down the line, we address the people who are still here. >> like i said before, nobody believes him. because, in fact what he did last night, what most people heard, what the people that he needs to add in order to get to 270 electoral votes, what they heard was a doubling down of a very nationalistic offensive restrictionist nativist policies that he actually started espousing back in june 2015 when he first announced his presidential campaign. that includes hispanic voters. that includes immigrant voters. that includes college educated white voters. that includes catholic voters. all of which he is losing in droves and he needs to add to
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his base, he needs to add to the people that are going to support him if he's ever going to get to the white house. >> can we -- >> it was an incredibly dark speech also, john, that really doesn't reflect the reality of what's out there. kayleigh can espouse all of these numbers and they are just wrong, they are not in the right context -- >> gao, go look at the report -- >> -- which is why most republicans have always supported comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship. >> i want to talk about something else that happened today which is the sort of we didn't talk about who would pay for it gate. it's a clumsy name but it was also perhaps somewhat awkward diplomatic moment where donald trump said they didn't discuss who would pay for the wall. then the mexican leader later said they did talk about it. mark preston what effect does this all have? >> a couple things. one is it really has no effect on donald trump supporters about
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whether or not they actually had the discussion. kayleigh and i were on last night discussing it. where i looked up the definition of "discussion" which i came to the hard fact which i'm sure the mexican president said something to donald trump and donald trump did not respond. when donald trump was asked about it during the news conference, donald trump said there was no discussion. he wasn't lying because there was no discussion. there was a statement made to him. he did not engage. i think what we saw yesterday was more confusion by donald trump. and when i say that, he had a very good trip down to mexico. a very risky thing for him to do but a very good trip. a few hours later, he went to arizona. any of the doors he opened up to try to reach out to voters that are beyond his loyal base, they closed quickly. >> why was it a good trip to mexico? >> not only did he go down there and show he was measured and could stand on stage with the world leader which he hasn't done in this presidential campaign, but he was also able to talk about the sheer desire
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to stop illegal immigration. we talk about illegal immigration here in the united states. mexico has a very bad illegal immigration problem with people coming across their southern boarder. >> there are critics who say attendants should not be equated with, you know, being presidential that showing u.n. -- >> right, critics will say you are grading donald trump on a very low bar. we're grading donald trump on the reality of this presidential race now and the situation we're in. when donald trump went down to new york city, a lot of people thought he would flub, mess it up, but he didn't. >> i want to ask you -- leave with that last point. if the bar for donald trump is not embarrassing himself, what does that mean heading into the debates? >> then it's nowhere to go but up. i think the key with that meeting yesterday, hillary clinton dinged him for it being a photo op. she knows the importance of foreign relations. is building relationships. she learned that as first lady
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of the u.s. and she said it's about building relationships. he took the first step with that. it was an important first step. he did so. he looked very presidential. and the bet way to do that is to take the first step and that's what he did and i think that was a win -- >> ten seconds, we have to go. >> what else happened after the meeting in addition to pena saying he was trump mexico was not paying for the wall. he said later trump policies would be a dangerous threat to mexico. that's not building a relationship. it was an epic fail. >> it is interesting that president pena didn't say that when he was on stage with donald trump. thanks for being with us. vice president joe biden speaks any moment. how will he respond to the trump speech? always colorful, the vice president. you might have heard that before. plus, we have breaking news. a big explosion on the space x launch pad. these are live pictures right now. some crews there have just arrived on the scene. we'll get an update coming up. did you know that chevrolet is the most awarded
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we are following breaking news out of florida. huge explosion on the space x launch pad at cape canaveral. the blast destroyed a rocket and its payload which was a satellite that i guess facebook was set to use to get internet services to parts of africa. cnn's rachel crane has the details as we look at sort of the aftermath here. >> space x is notils as to what wrong. the vehicle, meaning the rocket, as well as the payload, was lost in the explosion.
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this occurred during a static test fire. it was a planned test fire. so per standard protocol, nobody was on the launch pad. that means that no injuries occurred, nobody was hurt. the brevard county emergency management office said that there is no immediate danger posed or threat to the general public. as he pointed out, the payload that was on board was a satellite, that facebook was a partner in. it was intended to beam internet to remove parts of the world. unfortunately, that satellite was lost but no injuries occurred. >> there were reports that people felt it for miles around. >> yes, we spoke to somebody who said it was as though a mac truck had crashed into the building that he was in. he was at cape canaveral at the time. they knew something was wrong when this occurred. >> luckily, no human loss there, rachel crane, thank you for the update, appreciate it. just moments ago, donald trump spoke at the merge legion convention. he was in cincinnati.
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he described his conversation with the mexican president yesterday. he did not talk about the discrepancy between whether or not they discussed who would pay for the wall that donald trump promises to build along the border. let's talk about all this. want to bring in scott taylor. he's a delegate from virginia. donald trump supporter. still a candidate for congress, mr. taylor, yes? >> yes, john. it's great to be with you. >> thank you so much for coming. now, you have been, as a donald trump supporter, i don't want to use the word critical but you have been concerned over the last month or so occasionally about the tone that donald trump uses on the campaign trail and when addressing other people. look at the last 24 hours. what's your feeling on his tone? >> well, let's look at the speech he just gave to the american legion. i think it shows a strong commitment to our veterans. i am a candidate for congress in virginia and our district has active duty veterans.
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i myself am in the va system. in contrast of course hillary clinton said there's not widespread problems at the va. a lot of folks here, literally thousands of them in my district, know there are. i think he did a great job in ohio. on the world stage where the world leader, where he was basically an equal to the president standing there, of mexico of course. i think that he did a great job. >> again, that's something that people look at and say what made him an equal, just because he was standing side by side, that it the measurement of what is equal on the world stage? >> well, you can certainly debate what makes you equal, what does not. he's standing with behind the podium just like a head of state and it looks very presidential. i think it certainly gives the perception he is ready to lead. hillary has done the same thing of course as well. i think it was a good step by him in doing that. i think he did a great job there. i think he handled himself very well. on that world stage.
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>> again, that people would say, though, is the bar not embarrassing yourself, if the bar is not saying something that gets you in trouble, you know, is that a very low bar. >> well, that's up for you guys to decide and for the american people to decide. i'm just telling you i think on the world stage, this is the first time we've seen that of course, and i think he performed well. i think he performed well in the american legion speech as well. it's something i am passionate about and many people in this area of virginia are very passionate about. we know there are big problems in the va. hillary said the problems are not wide spread. and i think he did a good job. and i think it shows a commitment to change the problems that are in the va right now. >> you haare a veteran, you wera navy s.e.a.l. i believe. served in iraq and many other places. you expressed concern, this is after the convention when donald trump had his dustup with khan, the gold star parents the marine who died fighting in iraq.
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at the time you said donald trump should apologize to the khan family. has he, as far as you know, issued an apology? >> i'm not sure if he's issued an apology or not. listen, i'm not going to agree with anyone 100% of the time. i don't think any in the audience agrees with someone 100% of the time. in situations like that, gold star families, you should just, you know, say i'm sorry for your loss, thanks for your service and certainly move on. i'm not going to agree 100% with mr. trump but i'm going to agree with most things. i imagine your hillary supporters that come on your show don't agree with her 100% of the time either. >> we all have many different opinions. last question, scott taylor, if you get to congress, you have to vote on funding for things like building a border wall. who's going to pay for donald trump's border wall? >> well, according to donald, mexico is going to pay for it. we'll take that issue when i see it come across my desk, should we have the privilege of serving
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the virginia 2nd district in congress and we'll see what comes across the desk. according to him, mexico will pay for it. >> do you buy that? >> again, we'll see. >> scott taylor, thanks for being with us, appreciate your time. >> thank you, pleasure. all right, any minute now, vice president joe biden, he is getting ready to speak. he will no doubt, you can see him on stage there. ted strictland, the former governor of ohio, introducing the vice president. actually trailing right now in the senate race there. that's one of the reasons biden is there. also to talk about hillary clinton. and no doubt talk about trump. we'll be right back. make the? the lubricants that improved fuel economy. even technology to make engines more efficient. what company does all this? exxonmobil, that's who. we're working on all these things to make cars better and use less fuel. helping you save money and reduce emissions.
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all right, you're looking at live pictures right now.
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split screen on your left, the vice president of the united states, joe biden, he is in warren, ohio. on your right, the republican nominee for president donald trump, he is in wilmington, ohio. here's betting that both of these men over the course of the next few minutes will talk about the same thing. and that will be donald j. trump. vice president joe biden going to react to donald trump's immigration speech last night. donald trump probably going to hit those themes again today. they're just warming up. they're thanking the crowd now. we'll bring you some moments from the speeches as they develop. we want to bring in cnn political analyst and "usa today" columnist christine powers, a rm former clinton administration official. christine, where are we today? donald trump gave this speech last night on immigration which was highly anticipated. he made this trip to mexico which was highly watched. did it change votes? >> well, i think those are two
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very different events. the event of his trip to mexico i think did have the potential perhaps of swaying a few people. though i've said i think it's going to be hard for him to undo a year of demonizing undocumented immigrants and then try to speak positivitily about them the way he did in mexico, saying they were beyond reproach, extraordinary people. but i think he undid whatever good he did on that trip in his speech last night. because he was back to the old donald trump. sort of ranting and raving about undocumented ingra eed immigran they are the cause of nearly every problem in the united states, and really demonizing them in a way that isn't accurate. it isn't a real reflection of the contribution they make to this country. >> on his first point, which was the trip to mexico. we've had a lot of people on this show who said when he was standing on stage next to the mexican president, he portrayed
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a president ial image. one of the things the expectation setters here has been the clinton campaign itself. the clinton campaign itself has said that donald trump will embarrass the united states if he ever were to be commander in chief if he were to visit foreign countries. as we watch biden speak, hasn't the clinton team, to an extent, democratic party -- let's listen to joe biden right now. >> if you ever talked about people like he does, i'm not jo joking, i really mean this. if you ever sat there and, you know, talked about how, you know, how cool it was that, you know, john down the street got fired. you're fired. a phrase he's made famous. you're fired. you ought to come from a household where some people were fired. where the plant closed down.
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where all of a sudden they're staring at the ceiling, wondering how in god's name am i going to make it. a guy who says, a guy who says, and he means it, american workers make too much money. no, no, i mean just think, all kidding aside. i'm being deadly earnest here. this part's not the campaign speech, man, this is about, about the character of the person we're talking about electing president of the united states. you know, doug's here, doug franklin, the mayor, thank you for the passport, mayor, to get into town. you guys get it. you guys get it.
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i know robert and glen couldn't be here but i quite frankly like the fact that sherry and glen johnson are here. i like vice presidents better than presidents anyway. all kidding aside, back in 2008 and 2012, i came back to ask for your vote. i stood here and asked you, i said, i promise you, trust us, trust us. you gave us both. you gave us your vote, but more importantly you invested your trust in us. i came back to say, first and foremost, thank you. i know -- all kidding aside, i mean this sincerely. i know i would not be standing here today as vice president -- this is not hyperbole -- i would not be standing here today without you all, without the
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american labor movement. i would never, ever, ever as a 29-year-old kid been elected in the corporate state of delaware were it not in september all of a sudden knowing i had no chance, the uaw stood up, the single largest workforce in my state back then in '79 was the uaw. it represented 10% of the entire workforce in my state. there is no uaw left in delaware anymore. but it represented 10%. you stood up. you took a chance on a kid. you took a chance on somebody who said, i promise you i get it. my grand pop used to say joe eerks you're labor from your belt buckle to your shoe sole. for a simple reason. i am a student of history. i was raised in a family, i was straightforward and honest. and the fact of the matter is,
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american labor, not figuratively, literally, and you kids, you're not being taught this these days, literally built the middle class in america. there would be no middle class in america. that's not hyperbole, without organized labor. barack and i wouldn't have been elected president and vice president without all of you. i hope you know i've tried to repay your trust. when barack and i were sworn in january 20th, 2009, the auto industry wasn't on its heels. it was on its back. there were literally serious discussions among serious people of letting the industry collapse, not just right wing guys and the chamber of commerce guys. remember what they were saying about you all? they were saying american workers were not productive, that you all were lazy. try to remember what this really
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was, man. that you couldn't compete with the japanese. you couldn't compete with the germans, weren't as smart, weren't as dedicated. we had become lazy, and it wasn't worth it i know i get blamed but i'm happy now i get blamed for being the s.o.b. at the family picnic insisting that we bail out, quote, unquote, bail out the auto industry. i was absolutely convinced amend long with ted and sharon and tim, i was absolutely convinced because of who i knew, how i grew up. we knew the automobile industry was not just an important economic element of the american economy. it was the symbol of who we were. what are we known best for in the world? the american automobile industry. we built it for the world.
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not just for united states. and we understood how central to the well-being of our economy the automobile industry was. remember back then what our friends were saying on the other team. i really mean it because nothing has changed. that's the reason i'm reminding you of this. it's not like, god, we're tired of hearing about how we bailed out the industry and it's working. we know that story. the thing i want you to remember is why i got my brains kicked in and the president did by the "wall street journal" and by the republicans and by your opponent and by the last administration. it was about you weren't capable, you weren't capable of building the best product in the world. you weren't productive.
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you remember that argument? how many times did we hear for eight years about how you're overpa overpaid? how many times did we hear last time around, let them go bankrupt, let detroit go bankrupt. as ted pointed out, his opponent said this is a lousy deal for ohio. we had gone down to selling only about 6 million vehicles in a year. go back and look, as my wife as a college professor would say, google it. check it out. what was the mainstream center right press saying? we can never build more than 6 million cars in america, mainly because you weren't competent.
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you had lost your desire to work hard. you had gotten fat and happy. that was the whole story. that's still trump's story. guess what? why bother to invest? do you know who invested most in the recovery of the industry? everybody forgets this. the uaw. >> that's right. >> you all contributed the most. you gave the most at the office, as sthey say to resurrect this industry. you took a hit to get it back on its feet when management had screwed up the whole process. you're not designing the cars! management designed them! my dad was in the automobile industry. he said, give me product, i can sell it if you give me product. guess what, guys? the bottom line is these same
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guys, they haven't changed. it's not about the automobile industry. it's about the american worker still. they don't know you. they didn't know you then, they don't know you now. they didn't know where i come from. folks, we all come from the same neighborhood, the folks in here, whether it's youngstown, scranton, toledo, pittsburgh. and this other guy he simply -- he's not a bad guy -- he doesn't understand this anymore than you understand what it's like to live in a 30,000 square foot penthouse 80 floors up in new york. you don't understand that. i don't. he doesn't have any idea what it's like to sit at my dad's kitchen table and hear my mom say, honey, we need new tires on
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the car and him say, honey, we've got to get 10,000 more miles out of them. we don't have it right now. he doesn't understand the conversation that still goes on in the valley. honey, who is going to tell mary she can't go back to college this year? we just -- i don't know how to tell her. what do we say to her? look, folks, what you get, what we get, what the vast majority of americans get is giving america just an even chance, just give them a chance. my dad used to say, i don't expect the government to solve my problem. i just want them to understand my problem. just give me a chance.
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the neighborhood where we came from is where your character is etched, where you values are set where your view in the world and your place in the world is formed, like you guys. i came from a neighborhood where most people didn't go to college. kids all aspired to go to college. all our parents aspired for us to go to college, but we learned our values by watching our mothers and fathers. i learned by watching my grandpa. listening to conversations at that kitchen table. my dad had to leave scranton after world war ii in the mid '50s to find work. he was a proud man, but yet he had to walk up the stairs in our house and say, honey, i'm ear
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so sorry you can't go back to st. paul's, you're going to have to move back in with grandpa because we can't keep the house, i've got to go find a job, but it's going to be okay. he believed it would be okay. he said i'm going down with uncle frank down to wilmington. there's jobs down here. i'll come home every weekend, but i'll be back in a year and we'll bring everybody down. looking back on it as a young adult, i thought that must have been hard for him to tell me and my brothers. but what must have been harder is to walk into my grand pop's pantry and say ambrose, the father of four men, four boys and my mother, and swallow your pride and say can you take care of jean and the kids for a year, but i promise i'll pay you back. from that moment on, even though i was in fourth grade


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